HYDRO ELECTRIC POWER, PUMP STORAGE AND BATTERY STORAGE.

Terence Cardwell

TUMUT 1 HYDRO ELECTRIC POWER STATION.

There has been so much talk and false information about Hydro Electric Power Stations, pump storage and System battery storage that I felt it was time to put the facts straight.

Some of the most incorrect and misleading information is from self appoint university experts who have made all sorts of ridiculous statements. As well as from some politicians who either live in fairy land or are deliberately lying. You decide.

Do I know what I’m taking about; I was with the Electricity Commission of N.S.W. for 26 years in a number of positions including the commissioning and in charge of the Coal Fired Thermal Generators at Tallawarra, Wallerawang and Munmorah Power Stations.
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This question was received in response to the article “Government Gas Wastrels”

Re: “Government Gas Wastrels”

Well, Viv, Gas burns cleaner.

And Big Coal doesn’t need to be defended — it is capable of defending itself, or are you Big Coal itself… bought paid, signed sealed and delivered…?

B&T

Reply to B&T:

“Carbon Sense” does not defend or oppose any particular energy source. We will comment on their technical or economic advantages and disadvantages. We oppose government taxing some and not others for spurious climate reasons. And we oppose government forcing everyone to pay more for electricity because politicians have forced electricity companies to use unreliable and costly means of generating their power (via their market mandate schemes).

You should be free to buy gas energy, or solar energy, or coal energy, or cannabis energy, or cow pat energy as long as you pay the full cost, and leave me also free to make my choices on whatever basis I choose.

My personal position is clear. I do not represent Big Coal, Big Oil, Big Gas, Big Farming or Big Government. I have been chairman of a small oil and gas company, director of a coal producer, manager of a cattle grazing enterprise and a lowly public servant. I am presently a director of a small coal exploration company and I breed and graze cattle and sheep. I also use electricity and liquid carbon fuels. Does all that make me a vested interest schizophrenic? I have learned from all of these experiences, and I do not hide my continuing interests in mining, pastures, cattle, sheep and politics. Should we only listen to people who know nothing about the science and economics of the industries they presume to “Cap-n-Tax”?

My interests do not change in one whit what I think and say about the science, and politics, and economics of the Global Warming Scam.

In fact I am opposed to the weak policies of the industry bodies representing Big Coal and Big Farming. Both seem to think they can get special deals for themselves leaving the rest of us to fend for ourselves (and thus pay their share of the increased costs of Cap-n-Tax). Far better to oppose the whole thing.

Unfortunately Big Coal does not support the policies of “Carbon Sense”. They support the emissions trading scheme with all the stupidities that brings. They also have conned taxpayers and shareholders to pour billions of dollars into Carbon Capture and Burial. They also lobby for exemptions from the Ration-N-Tax Scheme that they are content to see foisted on the rest of us. “Carbon Sense” has opposed all of these policies.

The Carbon Sense Newsletter has been funded sparingly by about 40 individuals who pay subscriptions for newsletters and advice. Another 1,500 or so get the newsletter for free. Like the government, our expenses exceed our income, so we are making our contribution to the Great Financial Stimulus Package.

Viv Forbes

“The difference between taking a part of my life,
and taking my whole life, is just a matter of degree.”
Anon

Special thanks to Mr. Larry Pickering for permission to reproduce this cartoon. If you like, you can follow him on Facebook or visit him at pickeringpost.com Copyright L Pickering 2014

There was a time, before the baby-boom generation took over, when we took pride in the achievements of our builders, producers and innovators. There was always great celebration when settler families got a phone, a tractor, a bitumen road or electric power. An oil strike or a gold discovery made headlines, and people welcomed new businesses, new railways and new inventions. Science and engineering were revered and the wealth delivered by these human achievements enabled the builders and their children to live more rewarding lives, with more leisure, more time for culture and crusades, and greater interest in taking more care of their environment.

Then a green snake entered the Garden of Eden.

Read more, as well as:

• The Sky Fell last month, but almost nobody noticed
• So Much for the Consensus – just 20% believe “the debate is over”
• The Big Lie
• Ian Plimer new Book Launch.
• Peer Review of Tim Flannery – “The Weather Makers Re-Examined”
• The Carbon Tax is Gone

Read the full report: http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/death-by-delay.pdf [PDF, 115KB]

Keywords: Delay, Green tape, Keystone Pipeline, shale gas, Wild Rivers, 400 ppm, consensus, Ian Plimer, Wes Allen, carbon tax.

Promoting Parasitic Power Producers

Wind and solar are parasitic power producers, unable to survive in a modern electricity grid without the back-up of stand-alone electricity generators such as hydro, coal, gas or nuclear. And like all parasites, they weaken their hosts, causing increased operating and transmission costs and reduced profits for all participants in the grid.

Without subsidies, few large wind/solar plants would be built; and without mandated targets, few would get connected to the grid.

Green zealots posing as energy engineers should be free to play with their green energy toys at their own expense, on their own properties, but the rest of us should not be saddled with their costs and unreliability.

We should stop promoting parasitic power producers. As a first step, all green energy subsidies and targets should be abolished.

The Miracle of Green Energy – by Steve Hunter
www.stevehunterillustrations.com.au/political-cartoons/

Read more, as well as:

• Blowing Our Dollars in the Wind
• Five Fatal Flaws of Solar Energy
• The Sensible Environmentalist to Visit Australia
• Thanks for your Support
• The Last Word – our enemies have noticed us Trilobites

Read the full report: http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/parasitic-power-producers.pdf [PDF, 150KB]

Keywords: Green energy, parasitic power, wind power, solar power, Dr Patrick Moore, the trilobites strike back.

Dr. John Happs has put together a collection of articles that expose the politics and deception behind unsubstantiated claims that the trivial emissions of human-produced carbon dioxide will lead to catastrophic global warming and a host of other imaginary problems. (more…)

This is a follow-up book by Dr. John Happs. It further exposes the questionable behaviour of the political/ideological Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), its United Nations supporters and those who stand to benefit from the continued promotion of climate alarmism.

The book looks closely at the way in which respected organisations, such as NASA, and celebrities such as Sir David Attenborough have pedalled climate pseudoscience and alarmism to their many followers. We now know that many of our school teachers are shamelessly promoting climate fear in the minds of trusting children.

Most criticism is levelled at those Green zealots who have worked assiduously to prevent the widespread use of DDT and Golden Rice at the cost of millions of lives in developing countries. In Australia Green activists have opposed prescribed burning in our forests, leading to the accumulation of understorey fuel, catastrophic bushfires and the loss of property and lives. At the same time, they foolishly blame anthropogenic global warming for bushfires, floods and drought.

Australian supporters of the saltbushclub.com website can obtain copies of Climate Change: How Politics and Self-Interests Have Debased Science, directly from the author, for the special price of twenty-five dollars ($25). This includes postage within Australia.

Contact Dr. John Happs at jhapps@bigpond.com

A Statement by Viv Forbes, Founding Secretary of “Clexit” (Climate Exit).
31 August 2016

To view this release with all images intact click:
http://clexit.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/clexit.pdf

For at least a decade we have been told by the UN/IPCC, by most government media and officials, by many politicians, and by the Green “charities” and their media friends that “the science is settled”. We are lectured by Hollywood stars, failed politicians and billionaire speculators that anyone who opposes the World War on Carbon Dioxide is ignorant, mischievous or supporting some hidden vested interest. We endure calls for an end to free speech for climate sceptics, smearing with derogatory terms like “denier”, and even aggressive punishments like dismissal and legal action against sceptics for speaking out. The new low is the use of anti-racketeer legislation against sceptics:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/29/rico-charges-against-climate-deniers-a-case-of-goose-and-gander/

We notice the sudden and unexplained denial of pre-booked sceptic conference facilities and the steadfast refusal of alarmists to debate facts and issues.

Why are they so afraid of words? Surely this is a sign that their facts are shonky and their arguments are feeble? They fear they are losing the confidence of the public.
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71% of the earth’s surface is covered by water and large areas of the land are covered by frozen water. Water and water vapour are also significant components of the atmosphere.

The atmosphere and its trace component of carbon dioxide is a very thin skin in close contact with the surface of all of this water. Carbon dioxide is very soluble in water and Henry’s Law says that as the temperature of water changes the quantity of carbon dioxide dissolved in that water will change.

Thus if the sea surface temperature increases, carbon dioxide will be expelled to the atmosphere just like carbon dioxide bubbles are expelled from a warming beer. And as sea surface temperature falls, carbon dioxide will dissolve in the cooling water and this reduces the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

This effect can be seen in seasonal, medium term and long term trends.

The seasonal variation in atmospheric content of carbon dioxide is well known, and the huge southern oceans are key players. See the short paper by Bob Beatty on the carbon dioxide cycle at : http://www.bosmin.com/HenrysLaw.pdf [PDF, 689 KB]

When it is winter in the southern hemisphere, the cold surface water of the oceans absorb carbon dioxide and the content of carbon dioxide in the air falls suddenly by about 4 ppm. This is reversed when the southern oceans warm in summer, and the carbon dioxide is expelled from the oceans. (The seasonal summer growth and winter fall of northern hemisphere vegetation adds to this seasonal fluctuation caused mainly by the southern oceans.)

On a medium time scale (21 year moving average) Professor Lance Endersbee published a short paper in August 2008 and he concluded that the oceans regulate the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and the influence of human-generated carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is negligible. His paper included the following diagram:

See full article at: endersbee-co2-and-oceans.pdf [PDF, 490 KB; Source: ATSE No 151, August 2008.]

See also this paper by Alan MacRae: http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRae.pdf [PDF, 286 KB]

On longer time scales, ocean mixing caused by deep ocean currents causes long term changes in ocean temperatures. These changes also affect long term carbon dioxide trends. Carbon dioxide held in large quantities in cold deep ocean water is slowly released as ocean currents mix this cold water with warmer surface water. The reverse occurs as the sea surface cools, absorbs carbon dioxide and the cold dense water sinks to the ocean floor.

The most dramatic evidence of this lagged response comes from ice core data. These show that significant turning points in temperature precede the corresponding turning points in carbon dioxide content in air by between 650 and 1600 years.

See: http://carbon-sense.com/2009/10/03/taxing-ambulances/

Henry’s Law can and has been tested in laboratory experiments. The other data provides additional evidence for the conclusion that the major factor regulating carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, on all time scales, is the temperature of the oceans. Ocean temperature is controlled by solar cycles, cloud cover, ocean currents and undersea volcanism.

– Viv Forbes

A Progress Report

History

The Carbon Sense Coalition was founded seven years ago. Its 7 th birthday was on 12 th July, 2014. To see the historical formation documents go to: http://carbon-sense.com/carbon-sense/

No one asked or paid us to start this crusade, and we have never changed our policies as the result of external pressure or inducements. My personal motivation was hearing stupid or scheming politicians calling carbon dioxide a “pollutant”. I was also concerned by the increasingly anti-human, anti-industry ethos of the extreme Greens.

Since then we have fought quietly and persistently to explain and popularise the fallacies underlying the Mania of our Times. We have not been diverted to other causes, believing this is the biggest and most destructive political folly we have seen in a life-time of watching politicians. And the more we look, the more convinced we are of the cost and stupidity of the whole man-made global warming scam.

Our Main Focus

Our main problem is politics, not science. Politicians persevere in their climate/energy stupidities even though the science and the evidence no longer support them. They will only change when voters demand a change. Therefore our main focus is putting all aspects of the climate stupidity into short simple articles and spreading them into all media outlets and web sites available to us via letters, opinion pieces, media statements and newsletters. We also make submissions to public enquiries, and appear in person when invited.

We do not confine our activities to Australia – this is a world-wide problem requiring world-wide response.

Our Activities

We aim to get our message spread widely among ordinary voters and opinion makers. We welcome any website, newspaper, radio or TV station that will spread our message and we have had successes in all fields (except the Melbourne Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and the Canberra Times, which, I believe have never published a thing we have said.) I believe the ABC also falls into this category of one-eyed media. But even among the green media, someone in there reads our things before shredding them, and some points may take root, lying there in their brain like unexploded bombs.

Read more: http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/spreading-carbon-sense.pdf [PDF, 45KB]

The newly formed Carbon Sense Coalition today described the Global Warming Policies of both Federal and State government and opposition parties as “Policies for Poverty”.

Chairman of the new group, Mr Viv Forbes, says that at a time when scientific and informed opinion was becoming more sceptical of the apocalyptic prophecies of the Global Warming Industry, politicians and the media were competing to propose the most extreme and expensive options to “solve” a non- problem.
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