Monumental, Unsustainable Environmental Impacts of Green Energy

Replacing fossil fuels with renewable energy would inflict major land, wildlife, resource damage

By Paul Driessen

Extract from: https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/05/monumental-unsustainable-environmental-impacts/

Solar panels on Nevada’s Nellis Air Force Base generate 15 megawatts of electricity perhaps 30% of the year from 140 acres. Arizona’s Palo Verde nuclear power plant generates 900 times more electricity, from less land, some 95% of the year. Generating Palo Verde’s output via Nellis technology would require land area ten times larger than Washington, DC – and would still provide electricity unpredictably only 30% of the time. Now run those solar numbers for the 3.5 billion megawatt-hours generated nationwide in 2016.

Modern coal or gas-fired power plants use less than 300 acres to generate 600 megawatts 95% of the time. Indiana’s 600-MW Fowler Ridge wind farm covers 50,000 acres and generates electricity about 30% of the year. Calculate the turbine and acreage requirements for 3.5 billion MWH of wind electricity.

Delving more deeply, generating 20% of US electricity with wind power would require up to 185,000 1.5-MW turbines, 19,000 miles of new transmission lines, 18 million acres, and 245 million tons of concrete, steel, copper, fiberglass and rare earths – plus fossil-fuel back-up generators for the 75-80% of the year that winds nationwide are barely blowing and the turbines are not producing electricity.

Read more:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/05/monumental-unsustainable-environmental-impacts/

Media Statement Sunday 1st July 2007

A new organisation called “The Carbon Sense Coalition” has been set up to defend the role of carbon on earth and in the atmosphere.

Chairman of the new group, Mr Viv Forbes, a pasture manager, soil scientist and geologist from Rosevale in Queensland, says the group is concerned at the growing and unjustified vilification of carbon by politicians and the media.

More information on The Carbon Sense Coalition can be found on our web site at www.carbon-sense.com.

“The impetus for the formation of the group was, firstly the proposal that carbon dioxide be labelled as a pollutant in the Federal National Pollutant Inventory, and secondly a set of wholly destructive policy proposals from the Queensland government in their document Climate Smart 2050 – Queensland climate change strategy 2007 – a low carbon future.”

The response from The Carbon Sense Coalition to Climate Smart 2005, is entitled Look before you Leap.

In it, The Carbon Sense Coalition accuses the Queensland Government of proposing draconian policies which will have no effect whatsoever on global temperature, but will, if pursued, do tremendous damage to most Queenslanders.

(The full text of Look Before you Leap can be downloaded from:
http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/look.pdf).

Mr Forbes said that Queensland, more than any other state or country, depended heavily on carbon products for its past and future livelihood.

“It is unbelievable that the Premier of the state with the resources and skills to lead the world in coal, cattle, sheep, tourism and mineral processing, all of which depend on carbon, should try to lead the world into a low carbon future.

“Queensland is a big decentralised state. It is heavily dependent on diesel fuel and coal power for the road, rail, sea and air transport which moves our mineral and food exports, our fishing fleets and brings our tourists. All of these cornerstone industries are threatened by carbon caps or taxes.

“What is also of great concern, is the spectacle of Australian state governments trying to out-bid the Federal government with silly carbon promises. They should all cease their emissions.

“Carbon is the building block for all life on earth. It provides all of the food and most the energy for the human race. Carbon dioxide is a tiny part of the atmosphere, yet it sustains all life on earth. It is NOT a pollutant. To be anti-carbon is to be anti-life and anti-human.

“It is unbelievable that many in politics and the media are whipping up public hysteria about ‘global warming’ when the best evidence suggests that for the 100 years ending in the year 2000, the century of coal, steel, electricity, the internal combustion engine, jet planes, two world wars and a population explosion, the average surface temperature rose by only 0.6 deg, and there has been NO increase in temperature since 1998. In many areas, surface temperatures have been falling for decades.

“Even if the water vapour and carbon dioxide produced by man did cause some slight warming of the earth, is this a problem? Eons of geological history show that a warm, moist, carbon-rich atmosphere encourages all life on earth. These periods are referred to as ‘Golden Ages’. The cold barren periods are those to be feared – they get called ‘The Dark Ages’.

“Most people prefer warm climates and look forward to summer. They do not flock to Alaska, Archangel or Antarctica for winter – they head for Bermuda, the Black Sea or Bali, and Australian politicians find reasons to visit Cairns. All over the world, the human race is migrating towards the sun belts – Florida, the Riviera, and Queensland – very few volunteer for Siberia. President Putin voiced what many Russians must think – ‘a bit of warmth would be welcome here’.

“Moreover, a bit of warmth would vastly increase the land suitable for growing food and natural fibres. On the other hand, a slight cooling would take much of the farmlands of Canada, Northern Eurasia and New Zealand out of production, and parts of Tasmania and Victoria may have to convert from producing wheat and dairy products to farming caribou or reindeer.

“There is no evidence that carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is driving surface temperature, and there is plenty of evidence to show that current levels of temperature and carbon dioxide are neither extreme nor of concern.

“Carbon dioxide plays a wholly beneficial role in the atmosphere, and there is no evidence that this would change should carbon dioxide levels rise. It is being vilified because it is a so-called ‘Greenhouse Gas’.

“However, it is not even an important ‘Greenhouse Gas’ – water vapour is more effective and 100 times more abundant. Moreover, these atmospheric gases are earth’s protective shield – without them we would fry by day and freeze at night.

“The unprecedented Climate of Fear gripping the Western World is based on long term forecasts of surface temperature produced by some complex and highly dubious computer models which cannot forecast the weather with any accuracy beyond 5 days and cannot forecast the path of a cyclone from hour to hour.

“The output of a complex computer simulation of the atmosphere is not ‘evidence’. It is a fluttering flag of forecasts, hung on a slim flagpole of theory, resting on a leaky raft of assumptions, which is drifting without the rudder of evidence, in cross currents of ideology emotion and bias, on the wide deep and restless ocean of the unknown.

“There is no evidence, no consensus among scientists, no clear benefits, no reliable projections but huge potential costs if Australia does indeed pursue a ‘low Carbon Future’.

“To understand the phenomenon requires more than knowledge of science, the carbon cycle and atmospheric processes – it requires an understanding of mass psychology, the field of choice for many in politics and the media.”

Mr Viv Forbes
Chairman
The Carbon Sense Coalition
MS 23
Rosewood Qld

0754 640 533
info@carbon-sense.com

On Earth Day we should Celebrate The True Green Fuels – Hydrocarbons and Nuclear.

The Carbon Sense Coalition today urged people to celebrate the true green fuels – oil, coal, gas, nuclear and, in places, geothermal and hydro.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that these fuels have reduced man’s pressure on the environment to such an extent that they should be celebrated on “Earth Day”.
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“Well, the thing is we’re dealing with an incomplete understanding of the
way the earth’s system works…”

“When we come to the last few years, where we haven’t seen a continuation
of that warming trend, we don’t understand all of the factors that
create earth’s climate, so there are some things we don’t understand,
that’s what the scientists were emailing each other about, you know, we
just don’t understand the way the whole system works, and we’re trying
to find out.”

“These people work with models, computer modelling, when the computer
modelling and the real world data disagrees you’ve got a very
interesting problem, that’s when science really gets engaged. What Kevin
Trenberth, one of the most respected climate scientists in the world, is
saying is, ‘Guys, we have to get on our horses and find out what we
don’t know about the system, we have to actually understand why the
cooling is occurring, because the current modelling doesn’t reflect it.'”

“…sure for the last few years we have gone through a slight cooling
trend…”

Tim Flannery, ABC Lateline 23 Nov 2009
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2008/s2751390.htm

The Carbon Sense Coalition today claimed that Australia and New Zealand were in danger of becoming the green peasants of the Pacific.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that the only way the two countries could achieve their unrealistic emissions targets was by exporting their industries, reducing their population or creating chronic recession.

In a detailed submission to the New Zealand Government, the Carbon Sense Coalition concludes that their emissions targets are not feasible, not sustainable and not justified.

The submission, entitled “Clean, Green and Barefoot in the Snow” can be found at: http://carbon-sense.com/2011/02/28/barefoot-in-the-snow/

“The submission analyses the maths of the proposal to reduce carbon dioxide emissions to 50% of 1990 levels by 2050.
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The Carbon Sense Coalition today claimed that the Australian Government’s $4 million carbon tax manifesto was a litany of lies in a bucketful of bribes.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that the government advertising was so biased and deceptive that the government should conduct a referendum on the subject.

“If a referendum was held, the “No Carbon Tax” case would soon expose the lies in the current deceptive document.”

“The first lie is to claim that a tax on carbon dioxide will “cut pollution”. It is blatant false advertising to use “pollution” to describe a rare colourless non-toxic natural gas which is generated in the lungs of all animals and feeds all plants by fertilising the oceans and the atmosphere.

“It is another lie to claim that a carbon tax “will protect the economy”. The reverse is true. It will reduce the asset values, share prices, profits, dividends and growth of our biggest companies, destroy jobs and waste community savings on piddling power schemes like wind and solar energy.

“It is another lie to insinuate that a carbon tax will reduce “droughts, heat waves and bushfires”. Where is the evidence?

“Finally, it is electoral bribery to use carbon tax receipts to buy votes from pensioners, retirees, families, tax payers, carers, students and tenants. These bribes can never compensate for the job losses, reduction in retirement nest eggs, and increased living costs for everyone.

“The carbon tax manifesto is a dishonest document full of lies, deceptions and electoral corruption.”

Viv Forbes
Rosewood Qld Australia
forbes@carbon-sense.com

Viv Forbes is Chairman of the Carbon Sense Coalition which opposes waste of resources, opposes pollution, and promotes the rational and sustainable use of carbon energy and carbon food. www.carbon-sense.com

For people interested in checking into whether there is any basis for the above statements see:

Wind is neither free nor clean:
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/08/08/blowing-money-in-the-wind

Wind Energy on Trial in Colorado:
http://www.atinstitute.org/ati-environmental-law-center-v-state-of-colorado-renewables-mandate-pt-1-pollution/

Why Vote?

In a long life of observing and participating in many election campaigns, I have never before seen anything approaching the ferocity and stupidity of the “war on carbon”. Are we fighting –

• “Carbon” which is the essential element at the centre of every molecule of life on earth?… OR
• “Carbon Dioxide” which is the natural atmospheric gas-of-life that feeds all plants?… OR
• “Carbon Fuels” such as oil, gas and coal which are natural hydrocarbons which store ancient solar and hydro-thermal energy and which provide most of the electrical and motive power that supports and feeds every society on Earth?
• The Answer? Judging from their statements and sloppy language, the alarmists and green zealots are fighting all three. They aim to make “carbon” a dirty word and to deny all humanity the great benefits of hydro-carbon energy.

Like all futile wars, this one will eventually collapse. But it has already done tremendous damage to the global economy and financial stability.

Ominously, Malcolm Turnbull signed Australia onto the Paris Climate Agreement. This appalling document should be forever draped around his neck like a dead albatross. We need our own CLEXIT – climate exit from the climate Czars of Europe. Julie Bishop and Greg Hunt supported him and were collaborators in wasting or committing over one billion dollars on climate nonsense. Please put these three and their supporters last in their electorates.
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Short Biography – Dr. Patrick Moore

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for over 40 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. The leader of many Greenpeace campaigns (e.g. “Save the Whales”, seal hunting), he was a member of the Rainbow Warrior crew when the anti-nuclear testing ship was bombed in Auckland Harbour. Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction while Greenpeace became the world’s largest environmental activist organization.

He left Greenpeace in 1986 because of his concern at the anti-science and extreme political policies it was adopting; nevertheless, he remains passionately concerned about the environment and describes himself as a “sensible environmentalist”. This, of course makes him a most controversial figure as the current Greenpeace policies are not aligned with his “sensible” view. He is visiting Australia to explain why his view of catastrophic global warming differs from that of the extreme green movement.

Patrick Moore’s Public Appearances in Australia

SYDNEY

• 22 Oct. 5 for 5:30 Sydney RSL, L3 Function Room, 565 George St. a $20 donation at the door is requested to cover costs.
• 23 Oct. 6:30 pm for 7pm The Mirrors Room, Club Five Dock, 66 Great North Road, Five Dock a $20 donation ($10 for students) is requested at the door to cover costs; rsvp: Jim Simpson – 0417 285 884 or jimrsimpson@bigpond.com

MELBOURNE

• 24 Oct. 5 for 5:30pm CQ Functions, 113 Queen St, a $20 donation at the door is requested to cover costs
• 27 Oct. 12 for 12:30 The Australian Club 110 William St 2-course lunch $110 p.p. (dress code)

CANBERRA
30 Oct.

• 1st Session 2-3pm afternoon tea 3-30 pm,
• 2nd session 3:30- 4:30 pm

Hughes Community Centre Wisdom Street, Hughes
$20 donation ($10 for students) requested plus $2 for afternoon tea payable at the door

PERTH
1 Nov.

• 1st meeting 4 – 5pm (GM crops) C3 Church, 94 Waratah Ave. Dalkeith.
• 2nd meeting 5:30 – 7pm (Climate), C3 Church, 94 Waratah Ave. Dalkeith

a $20 donation ($10 for students) is requested to cover costs – covers both sessions.

HOBART
3 Nov. TO BE ADVISED.
Please register your interest in the Hobart event with Garth Paltridge (paltridge@iinet.net.au)

BRISBANE
Nov. 5th 7 for 7:30, Irish Club 175 Elizabeth St. A $20 donation at the door is requested to cover costs.

NOOSA
Nov. 6th 5 for 5:30, TheJ, 60 Noosa Dr, Noosa Heads
To book for this event, just click on:
http://sa2.seatadvisor.com/sabo/servlets/EventSearch?presenter=AUNOOSHI&event=mse0611 a $20 donation will buy a ticket.

Event enquiries should be directed to Paul Evans at: galileomovement@gmail.com
Media enquiries should be directed to Case Smit: case.smit@gmail.com

Patrick Moore is an engaging, articulate and intelligent speaker. His story should be of great interest, particularly now that authorities such as the Bureau of Meteorology are being publicly questioned about their handling of temperature records.

Dr. Patrick Moore

His recent book

Patrick Moore can be seen giving a presentation at the International Conference on Climate Change in July 2014:

The first climate scare was man-made “global warming”.

But the warming refused to appear as fast as the models predicted, so it became “climate change”.

But people were not stupid and soon were saying “but climate always changes”.

So now the climate scare industry is focussing on “extreme weather events”, and naturally they still claim these are caused by man-made carbon dioxide.

Timed beautifully for the meeting of the climatists in Durban, the UN IPCC has outdone themselves in forecasting extreme weather events – “weather on steroids”. Determined to scare up a consensus in Durban, this weather scare is sprinkled with warnings of “diluvian rains”, and droughts, cyclones, heat-waves of such magnitude or frequency that “settlement in some areas could be wiped out” and “some areas will become increasingly marginal as places to live” and “it is possible that many residents will have to relocate.”

Source (With thanks to CCNet):
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/un-scientists-forecast-more-severe-droughts-cyclones-and-floods-
20111113-1ndu0.html

Maybe they should be reminded that extreme weather events have been occurring as far back as earth history has been recorded. Here is a listing of “extreme events” over 1900 years, prepared by James Marusek:

Check them out here: http://www.breadandbutterscience.com/Weather.pdf

Here is another list of droughts, fires, floods and disappearing or growing ice. It starts with a record of sea floods that drowned 100,000 people in Holland in 1481.

See: http://www.c3headlines.com/bad-stuff-happens.html

Maybe “extreme weather events” are “normal” here on earth and man has very little to do with most of them. Someone needs to tell the pampered pontificators of the IPCC: “Bad Stuff Happens – get used to it, make appropriate preparations – you are not going to stop it.”

More:

• A comment on extreme weather from the Soviet era
• Back to the Dark Ages
• The March of the Triffids
• Exposing the Global Warming Lies
• Wind Energy Ghosts
• The Scientific Scandal of our Generation
• How to Get Expelled from School
• The Turd in the Swimming Pool
• Feedback from a Supporter
• The Road Ahead

See: http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bad-stuff-happens.pdf [PDF, 76 KB]

Strange Allies in the War on Carbon Fuels.

What great cause could unite Prince Charles, President Obama, the Pope, the Arab Oil sheiks, the United Nations, the European Union, the Russians, the Chinese, Pacific Island Nations, most undeveloped countries, the glitterati of Hollywood, left-wing politicians, unrepentant reds, government media, the climate research industry, Big Oil, Big Gas and the Green Blob. It must be something posing a clear and urgent danger to all humanity?

No, the crusade that unites them all is the War on Carbon Fuels, focussed mainly on that most vilified target, coal.

The biggest group, and the generals in this war on carbon, have no real interest in the facts or science of global climate change – they see climate alarmism as a great opportunity to achieve their goal of creating an unelected global government. They have even laid out their plans in a document called Agenda 21.

This group naturally includes the United Nations and all of its subsidiaries, the EU, and left wing politicians and media everywhere. At a news conference in Brussels recently, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity, but “to change the economic development model” i.e. destroy what is left of free enterprise and private property. See:

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/10/10/shell-oil-lego-greenpeace-and-the-environmental-movement-s-war-on-capitalism/

The next big group of carbon warriors is the anti-western failed states who see this as their big chance to enrich and entrench their ruling classes with “climate reparations”.

Then there are the enviro-entrepreneurs forever seeking new crusades to energise their supporters and get the donations rolling in – Greenpeace, WWF, Get Up etc…

In the dark corner are the anti-human Malthusians and the Deep Greens who want to get rid of most of us other people – personified by the rich and powerful such as Prince Charles and Maurice Strong. They know that carbon fuels support millions of people by cultivating, harvesting, transporting, processing and storing most of the food that supports the cities of the world. Killing the use of carbon fuels will certainly achieve their goal of reduced world population. See:

http://explosivereports.com/2013/01/12/prince-charles-openly-endorses-draconian-conclusions-of-new-population-study/

Naturally, government media usually supports a bigger role for government, and all media likes a scare story. Truth or logic does not matter greatly for most of them – just so long as they can coax a looming disaster story from someone. The daily diet of natural calamities soon heightens climate anxiety, which then motivates politicians to be seen to be “doing something”.

And then there are those who see that fighting carbon fuels also suits their pockets. As someone said “When placing a bet, the best horse to back is the one called ‘Self-interest’ – at least you know he is trying”.

Read more, as well as:

• Just Another Alarmist Temperature Lie
• Global climate is on a Natural See-saw not a Man-made Tipping Point
• The Overflow Column
• The Great Lakes about to Freeze Over
• Canada – Up to the Eyeballs in Global Warming
• Digging a Tunnel to Find your Car
• Time to Build a Beach House in the Blue Mountains?
• Politics Hots Up – Australia has a new political party designed to make the Greens look like climate alarm moderates
• Use of Carbon Fuels must grow for Decades to come
• The Last Word – Time to “Get Out”

Read the full report: http://carbon-sense.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/climate-revolt-spreads.pdf [PDF: 235KB]

Keywords: Global warming, climate revolt, war on carbon, vested interests, Arab Oil, global temperature lies, climate see-saw, tipping point, climate models formula flaw, Get Out clause.